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(NewsNation) — On this “Reality Check” episode, Ross Coulthart sits down with psychic medium Uri Geller. The two dive deep into the CIA’s Stargate Project, discussing how Geller’s psychic abilities helped the CIA and Geller’s trip to NASA’s Goddard Flight Space Center. 

Who is Uri Geller?

In the 1970s, one of the most enthralling acts on TV and the stage wasn’t a musician or an artist. It was an Israeli-British man named Uri Geller who claimed to have psychic abilities. He gripped audiences around the world with his seeming ability to bend spoons and stop clocks with his mind.

“I’m actually amazed how I managed to drive spoon bending into world culture,” Geller told NewsNation. “I don’t even have to visualize a spoon bending. I just I do it because I’ve done it for 60 years.”

He demonstrated what were astonishing feats of telepathy, finding hidden objects and remote viewing images.

“Sometimes, if I have time, I can look into someone’s eye and I can project a simple drawing or a number or a color. But this is no big deal. I think we all have telepathy,” Geller said.

But Geller has also long been attacked by debunkers and skeptics as a charlatan and a fraud because he claims these psychic powers.

“Without a skeptic, I wouldn’t be who I am today. They created the mystery around me,” Geller said.

The psychic medium said one of his ancestors is the renowned psychologist Sigmund Freud and that his mother thought he inherited those powers.

“My name is actually Uri Geller Freud,” Geller said.

Much of the mainstream media coverage of his career dismisses him as an illusionist, a magician, an entertainer who supposedly uses trickery to deceive his audience into believing what he’s doing is real.

However, Geller has suggested that the paranormal skills he claims to have may indeed have been bestowed on him, perhaps even by extraterrestrial intelligence.

It’s still very much an open question whether and how Geller is psychic because, in 2017, declassified documents from the CIA showed that he convinced America’s top intelligence agency in scientific testing that he did have some psychic abilities.

What is the Stargate Project?

The secret program, codenamed “The Stargate Project,” revealed that due to “Geller’s success in this experimental period, we consider that he has demonstrated his paranormal perceptual ability in a convincing and unambiguous manner.”

The CIA’s documents also showed that Geller went on to work with the agency, helping it study his purported psychic powers. He was also deployed on operations.

In August 1973, Geller was at Stanford Research Institute in California doing experiments with Dr. Russell Targ and Dr. Harold Puthoff, who were scientifically attempting to verify his paranormal perception abilities.

“They were very painful. I had to go through a battery of scientifically controlled experiments locked in shielded rooms, cameras filming me,” Geller said of his experience.

Geller said the CIA’s released documents show only a glimpse of the experiments.

The magazine “New Scientist” claimed Geller had a transmitter in his tooth where someone outside the room was communicating with him via Morse Code.

“Call it telepathy. Call it remote viewing. Call it whatever you want to call it. I sat in that shielded room and I duplicated the drawings. Some of them were so precise,” Geller said.

Geller said many intelligence agencies around the world including MI5, MI6 and other spying agencies use psychics but avoid promoting it because of controversy.

Geller claims that during tests with MI5 and MI6 in London, he managed to dematerialize a small object and move it to another room. He said the National Security Agency learned of this and theorized they could train psychics to “erase” Russian cities.

“This is not science fiction. They trained people like me to erase cities off the planet,” Geller said.

The psychic medium said he was taken by the CIA to Lawrence Livermore Laboratories where he was invited to attempt to manipulate the trigger mechanism for a nuclear weapon using his mind.

Geller said that when he performed certain actions, multiple scientists began hallucinating. He said that what happened was “beyond him.”

Geller’s encounter with UAPs?

Geller recounted an experience he had at around 6 years old in an Arabic garden where he describes seeing a sphere of light that emitted a beam, which hit his forehead and knocked him down.

Geller said about 15 years ago, a retired Israeli Air Force officer contacted him, claiming to have witnessed this incident when Geller was a child.

“That’s when it totally dawned on me and validated this occurrence of meeting some type of a phenomenon,” Geller said.

The psychic medium said he was not sure if it was an alien encounter, a spiritual event or an earthly phenomenon but that his paranormal abilities began to manifest after this encounter.

“I believe that maybe that encounter could have … triggered this energy in my brain,” Geller said.

Dead alien bodies 

It was 50 years ago when NASA astronaut Edgar Mitchell called Geller to set up a meeting with Wernher von Braun, describing him as an important NASA scientist. But Geller was initially reluctant due to von Braun’s Nazi past, noting that half of his family had been murdered by Nazis.

He overcame the reluctance, and while in von Braun’s office, Geller claims the scientist showed him a small piece of metal, which Geller touched and declared was “not from here.” In a private office, von Braun showed Geller a larger piece of metal (about 12 inches) from a safe, which Geller again claimed was from a UFO.

They drove to a concrete building on a NASA base. Geller described going down three-four floors underground. They put on orange Antarctica-style coats with NASA logos before entering a refrigerated room.

Geller claims to have seen alien bodies in glass tubes, many of which appeared “mangled” as if forcefully removed from a craft. He said that von Braun didn’t provide any explanation about the origins of the bodies.

“Everything dawned on me in that refrigerator room that this is all real,” Geller told NewsNation.

“I know one thing for sure, the bodies are still somewhere. Maybe they’ve been moved from Goddard to other secret places. But the bodies are there, and one day they’re going to be revealed. No doubt,” Geller said.

They returned to the office where Mitchell was waiting when von Braun gave Geller a German camera as a gift, which Geller says he still possesses.

“There is no doubt in my mind that the aliens who are visiting us now, or maybe even are already among us, they are peaceful,” Geller said.

Watch “Reality Check” dive into Uri Geller’s experiences working with the CIA in the video above.

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